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lilacs or roses


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Wendy24-Mar-07 11:00 PM EST 5   
Leo26-Mar-07 07:38 AM EST   
Wendy27-Mar-07 06:33 AM EST 5   
Leo27-Mar-07 09:58 AM EST   
28-Mar-07 06:03 AM EST   
28-Mar-07 06:03 AM EST   
Wendy28-Mar-07 06:12 AM EST 5   
Leo28-Mar-07 11:03 AM EST   
Wendy29-Mar-07 07:06 AM EST 5   
Leo30-Mar-07 06:54 AM EST   
cat.aholic@hotmail.com30-Mar-07 12:01 PM EST 5b   
Shari30-Mar-07 04:30 PM EST 6   
Wendy31-Mar-07 11:31 PM EST 5   
Shelley09-Apr-07 04:04 PM EST   


Subject: lilacs or roses
From: Wendy
Zone: 5
Date: 24-Mar-07 11:00 PM EST

We have recently purchased a farm that has had little landscaping. I would like to put in a lilac hedge along the east side of the yard to act as a backdrop to separate the yard from the rest of the working farm. However, I would also like to purchase some roses and other perennials. I was told that I could probably get lilacs from the wild rather than spending money on cultivated ones. Do the wild lilacs have the potential to make as nice a hedge as the cultivated ones? What is everyone's opinion??

Wendy


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Leo
Zone:
Date: 26-Mar-07 07:38 AM EST

I say 'Agincourt Beauty' for big purple fragrant blooms, if you plan on babying them, splurge for the cultivated ones..


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Wendy
Zone: 5
Date: 27-Mar-07 06:33 AM EST

Thanks, Leo I have an opportunity to get lilacs from a friend who pulls out hundreds of suckers from his hedge every spring. Are there varieties of lilacs that are more invasive than others? I guess that I am asking for opinions from those who have taken lilacs such as these before... would they recommend it or am I looking to regret introducing species that may not perform to my liking? Or, are there tree nurseries out there that sell lilacs as windbreaks reasonably cheap? Or should I not be such a tightwad, bite the bullet, and splurge on a cultivated variety. You can be brutual ... it takes a lot to offend me!! Wendy


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Leo
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Date: 27-Mar-07 09:58 AM EST

If you want pleasure and enjoyment out of your "windbreak" I say splurge, they are expensive! Whats the measurements of the area intended for the hedge? I have grafted lilacs on my property 1"Ivory Silk " 3"Agincourt Beauty"1 "Slaters Elegance" taste really.... Some variety's will last for 100 years!


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Date: 28-Mar-07 06:03 AM EST


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Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Wendy
Zone: 5
Date: 28-Mar-07 06:12 AM EST

I've done a little more investigating since yesterday morning and since learned that there are over a thousand varieties of lilacs, and that a person can getvarieties with different blooming times. I think that I am with you, I will splurge and buy my trees. Not only that, I will do the east side as a hedge (40 ft) this year, and then invest in a few lilac trees to put on the south side next year, all with different bloom times so I can extend the season of fragrance. Thanks for the advice ... now, can you direct me to a supplier that has a good selection? Wendy


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Leo
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Date: 28-Mar-07 11:03 AM EST

Have you thought of other fast growing low to medium height hedges like Forsthia, Potentilla, Spireas, Weigelas and Burning bush?? As for roses Rugosas and explorer roses are great for informal hedges! Make a selection based on how tall, and how fast you want it to grow and of course the look! Space plants one half to two thirds the mature plant width!

Its quite tricky to source out nice healthy stock of Lilacs. All mine have been in the family for years and years. You might even have to mail-order your special trees!


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Wendy
Zone: 5
Date: 29-Mar-07 07:06 AM EST

I moved to eastern Ont. from northern Alberta where I had little choice as to what I could grow. However, spring there was an explosion of lilac with its fragrance. It's more of a sentimental desire to grow lilac than anything else - as well as the fact that the choices available here in Zone 5 are so overwhelming. It's almost as if I have won the lottery and have no idea on what to spend the winnings on!! But, you are right, all the other choices would make nice hedges ... especially the roses which have longer bloom times. I do plan on incorporating roses in my landscaping plans. The biggest problem with having a fresh canvas is deciding how to fill it - there is so many choices. At least I know I cannot mess up totally no matter what I do because plants can always be taken up, moved, or given away. The best part is the planning. Have a great day! Wendy


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Leo
Zone:
Date: 30-Mar-07 06:54 AM EST

Veseys got some Lilacs


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: cat.aholic@hotmail.com (cat.aholic@hotmail.com)
Zone: 5b
Date: 30-Mar-07 12:01 PM EST

Hi, Wendy:

Iknow what you mean about winning the Growers Lottery. I felt I'd won it in 2000 when we moved to PE from the Yukon! in your quest for lilacs Vesey's is concerned about customer satisfaction. I've dealt with them in Ch'twn at their store/nursery BUT not done the mail order thing with them. I would check out Hortico in Ontario. I've purchased numerous roses from them ( they carry a huge variety of plant material). I've always been very satisfied.


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Shari (sharishabits@telus.net)
Zone: 6
Date: 30-Mar-07 04:30 PM EST

Wendy, I too have a nostalgic childhood attachment lilacs. I was delighted to find a lilac in the yard of our new home, after years of living in apartments and condos. I love the fragrance but unfortunately, my husband hates it!

Anyhow, I say, if you want lilacs plant lilacs. You will not regret planting something that you love, but you may regret deciding against it. You can find other places for roses, other shrubs & perennials, or plant a rose/perennial bed in front of your lilac hedge if there's space. That way you can get fragrance and beauty when your lilacs have finished blooming.

Have fun with your fresh canvas!


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Wendy
Zone: 5
Date: 31-Mar-07 11:31 PM EST

Thanks for all the advice, guys, this chat room stuff is a lot of fun - I'm new to this but have been watching hubby and his cattle boards for some time. I think I will do the lilacs, and now I just have to decide on the variety and find them. Gardening is sort of like a vacation - the destination is only part of it, the travelling is often the most fun and exciting. I do have a lead on a local grower. Best wishes all! Wendy


Subject: RE: lilacs or roses
From: Shelley
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Date: 09-Apr-07 04:04 PM EST

Just started with this forum idea also, and I agree with Shari - plant lilacs if you love them. We did some brand new landscaping from scratch two years ago and I put in dwarf lilacs, preston lilacs and am very pleased I did. I also grew up on a farm with your typical common lilacs - if you have space, lots of sun, these would make a great line of trees/hedge, but they have more of a messy, wilder look thatn the more well-behaved shaped ones.


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