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Carol26-Mar-02 03:39 PM EST 5a   
ana26-Mar-02 05:41 PM EST 6a   
George Griffin27-Mar-02 03:52 PM EST 5a   
Gianna Einarson (billeinarson@shaw.ca)27-Mar-02 04:52 PM EST 3a   
Carol28-Mar-02 05:49 PM EST 5a   
ana29-Mar-02 12:54 PM EST 6a   
Carol29-Mar-02 02:55 PM EST 5a   
Gail30-Mar-02 01:41 PM EST 8   


Subject: David Austin Roses
From: Carol
Zone: 5a
Date: 26-Mar-02 03:39 PM EST

I have the David Austin white rose "Fair Bianca" that I just love, and am looking for a taller, pink David Austin shrub rose to put beside it. Something that would grow 5-6 feet high and not be too bushy, with a strong fragrance and full double blooms would be perfect. I saw something on the rose "Brother Cadfael" (I can't remember where!), and it looked ideal. Does anyone have experience with this variety? Do you know where it might be available in the north Toronto vicinity? Any suggestions for other varieties?

Thanks for any and all ideas!


Subject: RE: David Austin Roses
From: ana
Zone: 6a
Date: 26-Mar-02 05:41 PM EST

When I bought my roses, I went to Humber Nurseries sometime in late April or early May. They have a huge selection. If anyone would have your rose they would. You could also try Hortico.com . Brother Cadael got a 4 star rating from David Austin but it only reaches about 3 ft.


Subject: RE: David Austin Roses
From: George Griffin
Zone: 5a
Date: 27-Mar-02 03:52 PM EST

I would try Pickering for a bare root rose. I have had good experiences with them. If you need the addressing or contact info I will email it to you. I have a large pink Austin withsuper double fragrant blooms it is Gertrude Jeckle. It has long canes that can be peged laterally with good effect.


Subject: RE: David Austin Roses
From: Gianna Einarson (billeinarson@shaw.ca)
Zone: 3a
Date: 27-Mar-02 04:52 PM EST

2 years ago I bought 2 Fair Bianca Rose from Sylvan Roses in Kelowna, who carry a wide range of David Austin. However, when the roses bloomed later that year, they were a beautiful pink. After contacting Sylvan and sending a picture, I was told that this particular rose he was slipping was producing pink mutations of Fair Bianca. Identical to the white version. I don't know if he was marketing them or not, but if you weren't set on a taller rose, this one has been very nice in my garden. Very hardy in my cold climate and usually one of the first of my David Austin's to start.


Subject: RE: David Austin Roses
From: Carol
Zone: 5a
Date: 28-Mar-02 05:49 PM EST

Thanks, Ana, George & Gianna for your very helpful suggestions! I really do want a pink rose that will be 5 ft or more and fragrant. Gertrude Jekyll looks great, but I understand it can be prone to mildew. Has anyone had problems with that? I'm now not sure what height Brother Cadfael is - different sources show different info. Maybe it depends on growing climate??? In any event, I certainly will check out Humber Nurseries and Pickering too. Thanks very much!


Subject: RE: David Austin Roses
From: ana
Zone: 6a
Date: 29-Mar-02 12:54 PM EST

Carol, one last thought. How about an antique rose? Louise Odier is a 5-6 ft bush, disease resistant and has camellia like flowers in warm pink. It is a bourbon rose with a fragrance so overpowering I've heard it called smelly Louise. It is hardy in zones 5-9. I'm sure Humber has this under their antique roses section if you can't find an appropriate David Austin to please you. Good Luck


Subject: RE: David Austin Roses
From: Carol
Zone: 5a
Date: 29-Mar-02 02:55 PM EST

Thanks, Ana. That's a great suggestion. I will look into that too!


Subject: RE: David Austin Roses
From: Gail
Zone: 8
Date: 30-Mar-02 01:41 PM EST

Have you taken a look at David Austin's 'Heritage' ? I have had great success with this variety - pale pink, fully double flowers, healthy, large dark green leaves, 5 feet plus, and a knockout scent. Mine produces many flowers throughout the season, and is left largely alone by the deer, which is a real bonus here on Vancouver Island. I haven't checked the hardiness, but I would assume that it is much like the other Austin roses. If this meets your criteria, I highly recommend this plant. Happy Gardening !


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